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It was gone, yes. But finally we did. I think it was two pages. Was it two pages? Was it a signed piece by Donovan? I think it was. Demanding his resignation. It was very interesting because, it sounds like a terrible thing to say, but in journalism a tragedy is both a tragedy and a moment of high excitement. That's what you're really living for, is to do your best at that point. Finally, when it's all done you see this poor guy, who is after all a human being, and he's disgraced, you think, forever. [laughter] This is the third coming of Christ. [laughs]

Did you, in that period, you, or anybody else that you're aware of at the corporation recieve any kind of pressure from anybody at the White House?

It was different from the days of Kennedy and Johnson when we were getting pressure all the time. In the days of Watergate the White House was more like a fortress, trying to block everybody rather than trying to pressure.

Did you have any meetings of any sort with any of the players in Watergate?

No. Me personally, no. No.

Or that you were aware of that Donovan had or--?