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and maybe a staff of twenty-five, with maybe six of what you might call executive types. Well, they-

And even after the Curriers were killed, the funding still came in?

Well, we knew that the funding was going to disappear. It was still flowing but it was going to come to an end. Anyway, they urged me to take the lead in pulling together a meeting. So we went to work and called for a meeting of the leaders of the U.S. in Washington. And I think it took place August 25, 1967. We had before that created an executive committee which met all day and night the night before the meeting. And it was really quite an extraordinary group of people because I don't suppose those people had ever really met before. It was a combination of governmental types, big business types, union types, black minority types. I think I even have the executive--well there were--I think the executive committee that met the night before included Walter Reuther, and Henry Ford, George Meany, John Lindsay, I.W. Abel who was head of Steel Workers, Whitney Young who was the head of, what is it Vernon Jordan is the head of?

I'm just blanking. The Urban League.

Anyway that's easy to fill in. John Lindsay. Do