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Vic.

Palmieri?

Mm-hmm. Linda Jacklow in terms of parties, and so on. When we opened the Soyinka play she got Werner Le Roy to put on a bash on -

Tavern?

Tavern on the Green, which was really bashy. It made us look as if we were rich as Croesus.

What about--if the answer is a strong leader of the board, would you try to do that? Would you try to unseat Lindsay?

If I could find the right person. But the problem here is that people who are really interested in the theatre are operating in the theatre. You know, you don't get Schoenfeld to run this thing. Schoenfeld is running his theatres. Schoenfeld doesn't like even to give his money to anybody in New York. Their foundation will give money to practically any non-profit theatre in the country. But he isn't wild about anything that might look like competition. Which is strange because, God knows, I wouldn't think we were in competition. You know, Gerry could do it and raise the money and so on, so on. I don't, I'm stymied.