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society called the Conservators of the New York Public Library. That's people who give a thousand dollars or more. We've have all sorts of events and lectures and what have you for them. In fact, last year we had 17,000 different events take place in the library, in 365 days. That goes from a reading for six children on up to something monumental.

What is your working relationship with Gregorian?

It's marvelous.

Describe it. How often do you see him, what kinds of things do you discuss with him?

Well I see him practically every day, because I'm at the Library sometimes practically every day except when I'm at Harvard or Washington. He usually has got six or eight points to bring up with me, and I have three or four questions to ask of him. But of course most often I see him in meetings, which range from five people to the whole board. His office is really just a meeting room--he's got a big oval table. Whether we're discussing construction for the branches or fundraising or how to announce something, or whether we should do a film, it's all Greg, myself, Ann, one, two, three, four, five other people depending on what the subject matter is. In the last year, half of our meetings have had to do with fund raising. Because he and I do most of the fund raising.