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culinary expert even as late as the 1950s when my father was over here just for a short voyage. I was invited down to lunch at the headquarters with Colonel Behn and the other heads of this growing-- and it was a seven course lunch, that was standard. That's what Geneen wiped out. So he, my father, Morgan, became Behn's personal man really in a sense. He was his eyes and ears for Behn and Commercial Cable and then all the affiliated companies. He earned what presumably was a fairly adequate living, lived in Paris, had a flat there. At some point--

But you didn't see him when you arrived in Paris?

I never saw him. No. At some point, I think it was in the 1930s, he married a German woman and lived with her until his death.

When was that?

About sixteen or eighteen years ago. He was eighty-four or eighty-five when he died. Died of cancer but right up till the end he was in fine form, because I remember visiting him in Lugano where he went when he retired from the company, which by then was a totally different company. It became part of IT and T. He retired to Lugano, which was a nice town on the Swiss side of the Italian border. So it had all the advantages of Switzerland. And then you got servants from Italy. Right until the end, I remember, I think it was the last time I visited him or something like that, in the