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But that's how the French are, they--

But you don't remember having any particular feelings about a particular political figure, later on about Leon Blum?

Yes, I was sympathetic to Leon Blum. I was a student so I was sort of vaguely sympathetic to the students but I also had a feeling that the situation was getting completely out of control. As you know, they were rioting practically continuously in Paris. I was lucky I wasn't in Paris. Had I been in a school in Paris, I don't know whether I would've been swept up in the whole thing or not. Being in a boarding school outside of Paris, you had some distance and isolation so that you weren't really that involved.

Having also had these childhood memories of these crazy people in Bavaria, did you have any sense of what was going on in terms of Hitler before the Anschluss or at the time of the Anschluss? Or was it just not on your mind as a young person in France?

Anschluss came later.

Late 1930s.

I left in 1935.

I see.