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Herald Tribune.

Had you ever thought about being a reporter?

No. What made me think of it was it had nothing to do with business.

Had you done any writing? How did you get a job--what was the job you got?

The lowest.

A copy-boy?

The Herald Tribune paid--it was just that they paid so badly--they paid you the large sum of $25.00 a week.

You joined the Herald Tribune in 1936. Do you remember what month?

June or July. Just as soon as I quit.

But wasn't it unusual that you could just walk in and get a job? You got a job as a reporter?

The lowest, city room reporter. The most menial stories.