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wife!” Alfred Eisenstaedt was the mousiest little man that you've ever seen, but with the determination like which you've never seen. He had emigrated from Germany in the early 30s and had fallen into the hands of a “friend” of his, who was an agent representing photographers. And he was very grateful to this man, because he got him jobs--LIFE and so on. And about twenty years later, Eisie had finally complained about how he was being so poorly paid. And we said: “What do you mean, you're being so poorly paid?” And he said: “Well, this is what I get.” It turned out the agent took 50% of his money, and Eisie never realized it [laughs]. Gives you a feel-- Then there was Maggie Bourke-White, who was the grande dame of photography, who had her way with people, subjects, men, everything. She was a terrific person that had a tragic death. She had what you call that disease? Parkinsons's. I've never seen a person fight to stay alive and to be able to keep working as hard as she did for three, four years, till it finally got her down. Fritz Goro was the great science photographer. He was a great photographer. He made himself into a great science photographer. He developed all sorts of techniques which allowed him to photograph things in ways that they had never been photographed before.

And all of these--these were very bright, imaginative, wild, adventurous characters, who loved the expense account nearly as much as they loved their cameras [laughs]. I remember one photographer, during the war putting in an expense account which included a 180 dollar taxi drive while he was on an aircraft carrier. (laughter) Another one bought a fur coat and when he was told that he couldn't