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Here I am guessing. I would guess it would probably be
more Clare than it would have been Willkie.
Clare that got him involved in Republican Party politics?
Okay. Go on with public figures you think he was close to and
Foster Dulles. They had the same sort of religious
asceticism. He was not an ascetic in other ways--Harry wasn't. But
on the religious front, he was a very firm Presbyterian, and I think
he considered--I think he was very much for Dulles because he
considered him to be a “religiously moral man.” Actually, he
suggested Dewey for Secretary of State to Ike, which is sort of
strange. But the minute Dulles got in there, he, Henry Luce and
Dulles, were very close and saw an awful lot of each other.
What was Luce's religion like? What kind of a believer do you
think he was, from your personal experience with him?
He had a very strong theoretical belief in religion. I
now realize that the word theoretical could be taken the wrong way.
He had all sorts of strong theoretical beliefs, one of which was
religion. He operated at two planes. One theoretical, and the other
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