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The management and the employees.

What about--since it was a publishing business--the readers? The public?

Well, yes, but that's taken for granted. I just assumed that we would appeal to the public. If we didn't appeal to the public, we wouldn't exist.

But being a news organization as well, did you feel you had to act on behalf of the public? Did you feel you--

I have to say that I don't think you act on behalf of the public. Hopefully, you acted for the general good of the public. But that's different then--

Okay.

--yes, but that's sort of in the mind all the time, because you're dealing with public policy all the time. So, hopefully, you are dealing with public policy in a positive manner. You never know whether you are or not, of course.

It must have been hard, though, to resist--in that era, in particular--the increasing pressure from Wall Street to perform for the stock price, for investors, you know, for the shareholders.