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can tell you two things. One, it will be ten years before the boroughs get cable. Two, there will be political shenanigans.” Twelve years later, they still haven't got a cable, and of course, half of the political shenanigans have involved cable franchises New York now.

What in the whole broadcast-video-cable-HBO area, any negotiations that you remember or interesting decisions that come to mind? That you were involved in directly? Or mistakes--anything that stands out in your mind.

Well, I told you there were an awful lot of mistakes that went on.

Yes, that's true. That's true.

How many more mistakes were there? There were probably a lot more [laughs], and some I didn't know about.

Okay. Anything that comes to mind?

In our negotiations?

Yes. [pause] Or, you know, you talk about the decision to go satellite. That must have been a difficult--

Oh, that was incredible. I think when Jerry Levin and