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Well, the actual acquisition was in 1972.

Yes, but it starts way back. The land--the forest lands--one thinks of forest lands as being one great big plot, you know, of 20 square miles, something like that. Forest lands are not like that, at least not down there. They were assembled in acreages from, oh--twenty acres to 10,000 acres, and they were really little squares dotted along Eastern Texas, and contiguous with the other squares owned by farmers or other companies. One big owner was Temple Industries, and that--we realized, we became aware of the fact that sometime--I think it was in the late 1960s or early 1970s--no, middle sixties--that Temple was considering selling out, and in fact, selling out to a competitor, Champion. And if Champion bought those lands and those mills they would end up by making, building a paper mill down there. And the paper mill would use up the chips--the chips were what we were buying from Temple to make our paper. So we had--we had been friends with Temple for ten, fifteen years, ever since we've been down there--

You mean, just kind of friendly neighbors?

Friendly neighbors, you know--Mike Buckley and Arthur would go shooting the whole time together and so on; I got to know him at housing conferences that we held--

Did you like him?