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protecting your industry and the workers you represent. I have
a broader interest and that's what I have to protect.” And
at the end of the half hour -- and he's very upset -- he says to
these fur manfacturers: “That's all right. I'll have Alex Rose
call him.” (laughs) But of course Alex Rose won't call me on
that. Alex Rose is too decent to call me on such a thing...
So anyway in the case involving McCarthy and Kennedy, I
supported Kennedy and then he was shot. That was a great pity;
I was very emotional about that. And that's it.
You want to talk about Bella Abzug?
Yes, except I just wanted to know: what was your degree of
enthusiasm when Humphrey became the candidate?
Oh, when Humphrey became the candidate, then the pitch was:
“I will not support Hubert Humphrey unless he comes out against
the war.” There was that kind of rhetoric, which I maintained
until about two weeks before the election. It was rather one
to force Humphrey to a better position on the war. He did not
have a good position. And (2) it was what the New Left and the
reform movement position was in the city, and so I went along
with it. I must say I'm not happy with exactly the way I handled
it, but I think from a political point of view it was correct.
From a courageous, moral point of view, it was not. But I knew
that before that election, I was going to come out for Humphrey.
We were just planning how do we do that? I mean you had Nat
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