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agent who had his office on the upper west side of Manhattan, very right-wing in his statements, and his statements could reasonably be interpreted as rank racism.

To your knowledge was he a John Bircher?

Oh, I doubt it.

As a matter of fact, was there much Birchism as that time in New York City proper?

No, not in the literal sense. The John Birch philosophy, which is more than just a very right-wing kind of philosophy on issues, is also nutty. From their point of view, Eisenhower was a knowing Communist dupe -- something like that. They are just nuts, and I don't believe that John Birch in that sense has any following in the city of New York.

About that time was there a growing, almost conservative type movement, however, in the city, bringing up such people as William Buckley, Rosemary McGrath and others? We're in the period now of the early '60s.

It's gotten more conservative since then. More people I should say are accepting the conservative criticisms of society than were