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agent who had his office on the upper west side of Manhattan, very
right-wing in his statements, and his statements could reasonably
be interpreted as rank racism.
To your knowledge was he a John Bircher?
Oh, I doubt it.
As a matter of fact, was there much Birchism as that time in
New York City proper?
No, not in the literal sense. The John Birch philosophy,
which is more than just a very right-wing kind of philosophy on
issues, is also nutty. From their point of view, Eisenhower was
a knowing Communist dupe -- something like that. They are just
nuts, and I don't believe that John Birch in that sense has any
following in the city of New York.
About that time was there a growing, almost conservative type
movement, however, in the city, bringing up such people as William
Buckley, Rosemary McGrath and others? We're in the period now
of the early '60s.
It's gotten more conservative since then. More people I should
say are accepting the conservative criticisms of society than were
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