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willing to go along with Folsom. Maybe if Mrs. Hobby had come to him, she could have gotten him to go along, too, but he didn't initiate anything and was just willing to go along. She had not only wanted to cut the funds of the National Institutes of Health, but she didn't understand the public interest in the Salk polio vaccine and she had really shocked the country when she had not testified in favor of appropriating money on a large scale to supply polio vaccine for people.

Now, came the business that Margaret Chase Smith wanted to announce her billion-dollar program before Folsom's press conference, when he was going to announce that he was going to give extra money.

A bit of competition there.

Yes. She did send a news release on this before Folsom's press conference and consequently took some of the play away from him. The day of his press conference, about December 10th, Folsom phoned me to tell me that he had recommended this 25 to 30 million dollar increase for the Institutes of Health and that he hoped the people interested would try to hold the testimony to his figures. In other words, we shouldn't ask for more than he had asked for. I made some enthusiastic remarks about his efforts but was noncommital on what figures I would personally recommend. He asked me to come to a meeting