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that you have used with the Congress. I mean, this is branching out and meeting the states when they are assembled, so to speak, in one place.

Yes, and this took a lot of effort. I didn't go to the conference, I forget why, but Florence Mahoney and Mike Gorman went to it and were very effective.

This strikes me as a rather brilliant idea.

But this was entirely financed by the Lasker Foundation, because I've forgotten to tell you that the National Committee Against Mental Illness is entirely financed by the Lasker Foundation. There are no outside funds whatever. We didn't bother to ask for funds from anybody else because it takes so much time to ask for money with no time to do any other work.

So, it was really your idea and executed by you.

Oh, yes.

May I ask, how much money is involved in financing the activity of the Committee?

Well, the money has been from $25,000 to $50,000 a year, depending on what year it is, and