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thing that he really seemed to understand and wanted to do was to speak to large and small live audiences.

The lecture-type thing.

Yes.

So, he didn't yet appreciate then the value of television as a means for campaigning.

No, and he doesn't still to this day. It's unbelievable that anyone as intelligent as he is in other areas doesn't get this, the importance of the thing. It somehow annoys him and he has a resistance to it.

Well, after the victory in California he and Bill decided that they'd like to come to visit me at my ranch in Arizona. I was about to go and join them there when they changed their minds and went to the San Acidro Ranch in Santa Barbara instead.

In June of '56 we had our great triumph on the floor of the House which really showed that the Congress wanted to spend money on medical research, and we defeated our worst enemies through dear Mr. Fogarty. After this triumph I went to Chicago, on the 18th of June, with Mike Gorman and his wife. His wife had had a breast cancer and had had an operation, and we wanted to get the advice of Dr. Huggins to see what else he thought might be done to prevent its recurrence. Unfortunately, he found