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to people he didn't know by me who were friends of mine or Mrs. Krim. So it really is fantastic; the style of American Presidents in public is something fanatastic because it's between extreme dignity and solemnity and the manner and aggeeableness and cordiality of a campaign, which they never get over.

Which they can't afford to get over.

Which they can't afford to get over and which was brought to it s height, I suppose, in the Kennedy campaign in '60. Certainly Eisenhower never went out among the people in the same sense and shook hands with them in as great numbers or with as great warmth, and Stevenson in '56--even in '56--was rather shy in campaigning; although as he has to campaign against Kefauver for the nomination, he began to walk up one street and down the other side and shake hands with shopkeepers. After the campaign he was still quite shy when people came up to him at the theater, I can remember. But at any rate, the shyness was not part of the technique of either President Kennedy or President Johnson. It's really fantastic--the ease with which people can approach the President of the United States once they get into the

But there's a certain screening that takes place....