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But as recent as two or three years ago when you first began talking with me about this subject, you intimated then that it was almost a subject that was tabu among your own friends.

Oh, yes, they still don't want to hear about it.

Isn't there any change there?

No, I couldn't say that my social friends feel differently. I think the attitude is that something should be done about cancer--yes. They want something done about it, but they're not willing to work and give great sums of money or do a tremendous lot about it. The Cancer Society has increased its collections over the last ten years, but not such a terrible lot. They've increased their funds from their drive largely because they got started on asking people to leave money in their wills, a thing that I urged them to do, and the wills have brought in $5 and $6 million a year for the last three or four years. I think that's just a snippet compared with what we could get, and I'm thinking about offering to pay for an ad to urge people to have the will to conquer cancer and write in their wills a contribution for research to the American Cancer Society.