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Well, they know what they've done, but for instance they've made one suit that a man could weap, that could be controlled from Houston, on the moon. Well, when you can do this, you can control a paralyzed man's arm or leg. Or he might even be able to control it himself, to move it -- but this has never been worked out to apply to a person who's crippled by paralysis. But there are many, many, many things in the way of making wheel chairs able to climb stairs, and there are many applications that are conceivable that have never been studied and brought --

-- these are developments on earth.

On earth.

--that have been utilized during flights.

And the people in Congress are very interested, the chairmen of committees, very interested in doingthis.

Fascinating area.

Yes.

How did you get interested in this?

I learned of it through Leonard Goldenson, head of the American Broadcasting Co., who's very interested in it. But he didn't know how to do anything about it legislatively. and I talked to Mike about it, and Mike dug into it and found that friends of ours were already interested. As a matter of fact, I found