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the previous year were examples of something of a departure in giving out awards, cluster awards in a given area, and you said you weren't quite certain you wase going to pursue this trend. Have you decided?

I think I will try to pursue it. I think it's better to give awards in a group, if you can find the proper recipients, because I think it has more meaning to the press, and that you get the idea of what a person's contribution is publicized better.

A much broader base, isn't it.

I think it gives it more significance, more easy to understand, don't you think so? Do you agree?

I do, very much so. I was wondering if you'd made a definite decision in the area.

Well, it depends on what there is that's right to give an award to.

Yes, the subject.

Well, in the field of high blood pressure, the Citizens Committee for Dealing with High Blood Pressure has a number of outstanding spon sors -- Mrs. Lyndon Johnson, George Meany, John Gardner, Michael de Bakey. We spent a long time trying to get a chairman to raise money and to inform heads of industry and of state, leaders of state, and urge them to -- the citizens of state and the employees of all big industries.