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Yes, very well, thank God.

Well, that's the last half of '74. Here's the outline of activities in '75. Can you survive any longer?

Surely, sure. I don't see how you survive all these activities.

Oh, I survive all that stuff.

In January of '75 for the first time I was invited by the head of one of the National Institutes of Health, the Institute for Neurological and Communicable Disorders and Stroke, to a meeting of professional societies and voluntary health agencies. They actually inquired what we would do to help them and tried to tell us what they were trying to do and really saw health from the outside. Normally the institutes heads don't communicate with anybody except the people who might do research, never seeking any advice or help from volunteers, laymen. Nobody has ever sought my help.

Why this reversal of policy?

I don't know. There's a new director called Dr. Tower, and he's just smarter and wishes to have the help and support of outsiders. And of course whatever I've done for I've done entirely on my own without any reference to what they thought, because they were always embarrassed to admit that they needed more funds or could do more if they had more funds because they were supposed