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organizations.

You did start to talk about the success of the campaign for -- to alert people to heart disease and high blood pressure.

Well, we did have a meeting in February of State Health Officers, organized by the National Heart Institute, to involve them in the high blood pressure education program. Mike and I have gotten, by one means or another, now eleven million dollars in Health Services Administration appropriation, in their budget, and that money goes out to states on a per capita basis, a basis of need and per capita, population in the state. And that means that New York State has like possibly five hundred thousand dollars, and California maybe five hundred thousand dollars, and it gives them a sort of nucleus from which to start high blood pressure programs in public health clinics, or screening programs on state levels.

The fact that the funds are available to the various states in different degrees, does this automatically mean that the states will use this money and do something with it?

Yes, the states are delighted to use the money.

They are?

Yes. And some states are very energetic about it, including Mississippi, which seemed very interested. Hawaii and Florida. I told you about the letter I received from Mr. [George] Hayden of the Advertising Council, saying that fifty million dollars in free time had been allocated to the campaign in over two years, between “75