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material with the thought that it was just as good as the other, and they didn't get any reaction, or very little, so of course a lot of people reported they didn't have any results.

This was the adverse publicity of a few months ago.

Yes.

There was a great deal of it.

Yes, and also in the case of the lung cancer -- ten lung cancer patients, they had been given material that had been liquid material that had been in the Memorial icebox for two years, and then before that the NCI icebox for one year, so altogether it was three years old, and at that it was less pure than one tenth of one percent.

Now when you say liquid material you mean (cross talk)

In a liquid form in a bottle.

From the bottle itself?

Yes, and the other was frozen dried. They thought that frozen dried might have some advantage. It should have been tested before it was sold -- before it was sold as an order to the Cancer Society. It wasn't tested, and