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You have no influence.

I have no influence. And if that's the case with those two people, it's the case with all the rest of them. We either have to have lithium, small amounts of something, that will counteract it, that they can take so that they don't want to smoke. Just an act of will -- they can't make it. It's too much.

Some years ago there was a Danish drug that when administered made a person not want to smoke. In fact, it made them ill.

Or not want to drink, wasn't it?

I think it was to smoke. I think it made them ill.

Antabuse was the thing that made people ill from drinking.

Maybe that's what it was. But something on that order could be developed.

You've given me another idea. I think the National Mental Health Institute could make an experiment. It's a mental health problem. It should be treated as a mental health problem. I was very encouraged when Patricia Harris was made the new Secretary of HEW. Health and Human Services I think it was just