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I certainly am interested. You know that's part of your life.

Well, didn't I tell about this last year? I think this was last year. I went to a dinner at the home of the Saudi Ambassador and his wife this spring, which was very flattering to me because I really didn't know them at all well, and it was the first time I had seen a cross-section of the Republican Administration, who were there in force.

And you were learning about the Middle East?

I was learning about the Middle East. I was trying to learn. This is last year. This is May, '80, you see? You've seen me since then.

I am now on the board of the Lyndon Johnson Foundation.

This is in Austin?

In Austin, yes. This is very interesting because of my friendship with Mrs. Lyndon Johnson.

What does that entail, being on the Foundation?

They have money, and they're sometimes interested in raising more money to support the Lyndon Johnson School of Government at the University of Texas in Austin and to do special