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At one point.

A conference committee like this -- does it consult with the Budget Director.

No, they just consult with themselves. They may refer to the Budget Director, but they really are sovereign Well, among other things that happened during the summer was that the Food and Drug Administration was trying to get citizen participation in some of their activities. They asked me to be on a panel which they had on the testing of drugs on infants. It was well handled and they're much more public relations conscious than is anybody at the National Institutes of Health. It's interesting to see how different federal agencies depending on who's at the head of them.

Is it the policy -- because of the policy of the head of the Food and Drug Administration?

Yes.

What kinds of drugs were they vesting?

A spectrum, a variety of antibiotics and different kinds of drugs that might be applicable to children, even anti-leukemic drugs.