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Commission on Population, and they felt that they weren't getting
any place, one day -- I think he talked
to John Gardner and Gardner said he should get in touch with me
and see if I couldn't interest the President in such a commission.
This was last summer, I guess.
This is John Rockefeller III?
John Rockefeller III, yes. He'd written a letter to the President, and he had felt that it hadn't made any impact. I said, “Well,
let's go and see Mrs. Johnson,” so I made an appointment with
Mrs. Johnson some time in November, and Mr. Rockefeller and I
did have an appointment with her on the subject, and she did
talk to the Preside not about it. I seldom ask her to talk to
the President on any medical subject, but I did on this one,
because she was sympathetic. She said that felt that it wasn't
the right time to do it, while the Congress was in
session, that there might be some opposition, and to get his
program through he really couldn't afford any opposition at
that moment, that he was interested in it and that he
would try to do something about it, perhaps put it in a health
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