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we're in the process of trying to figure out how to talk about
cancer and arteriosclerosis at least in a fresh way, so as to get
greater visibility and higher rating for money, for federal
money. But that's for the future. It's in a nebulous state.
The committee is fairly friendly, on the Senate side. However,
Senator Russell, who has always gone along with Senator Hill, I
imagine because of old friendship and because they knew how to deal
with each other, is chairman of the full committee now, he has never
been particularly friendly to medical research, and this worries me,
because any opposition from him would mean an effort on the part of
Magnusson to fight off. And while Magnusson has tremendous
intuitions and is a terrific fighter when he wants to be, he just
doesn't want to be all the time. And he hasn't got the background
or the motivation that Hill had. So we shall see what will develop.
It's a new era.
Well, you go on into that.
Oh, I go on into that era -- oh, yes -- but the effectiveness
with which you can move is very much lessened by having a new set
of not well informed or terribly intimately friendly and
Well, granted that, but you have such a wide knowledge and such
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