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No, I think in the way that business operation should be handled, and perhaps, to some degree, personal struggles for power in which Syd Gruson was very much involved. Gruson is a vice president and close confidante really of Punch. But since I had originally known really nothing of this whole problem, all that I learnt about it, I learnt by being present at some of these sessions, in which there were some very sharp and very uncomfortable discussions involved Andy Fisher, who by the way I had and still have great respect for - and Frank Cox, who's a very conservative type, whom I also had respect for, as far as integrity goes, but who was very conservative in the management, and then some of the more “go-go” types, I guess, of whom I feel that Syd Gruson was one.

There were clearly strong power struggles going on in there, which have come out in some of these conversations. A and B and C and D figure predominantly, and I'm not sure who any of them are.

Where are they? Those are in -

Not far from the end of the book.

I'm trying to find - well, here's a chapter, by the way, on “The New Feature.”

Oh, yes. What was that?

“The New Feature” is the Op-Ed page.