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incidentally wouldn't have been guilty of editing out that particular phrase, but somehow I think it got edited out.

In any case, this was the -

Were your colleagues on the editorial page involved?

No. No.

They were not.

No. I was the only editorial -

Let me ask you to pursue this line.

Not even Raskin, my deputy. No, only myself.

The head of the sports department, the business section, was either of them involved, do you know, in the New Jersey sessions?

Sports wasn't. Sports wasn't. Was Tom Mullaney the then business editor of the Times? You know, I honestly can't remember whether Tom Mullaney was there. He certainly didn't take a very active part. And by “there,” I am not referring to that session we had at Absecon, New Jersey, which lasted a couple or two or three days. Other sessions