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great virtues, but is capable also of considerable departure from a standard code of behavior.

Mr. Sulzer used to appeal to me as being that kind of a man, except that instead of being a Maino lobsterman he had been thrown into the melee of New York politics and the New York practise of law. Above everything else he valued personal liberty and personal independence. I think that's true.

The way he behaved during this whole episode was an indication that he wasn't as wrought up about honesty as he was about the idea that any man could tell him what to do - even as a human being, but doubly and triply so because the high office of Governor was even more above that kind of thing. It could not be dictated to. I think it was true admiration for the high office and a true respect for the high office and for the importance of a Governor who was elected by all the people and therefore was not beholden to various politicians.

But the truth was that Sulzer's hands were not clean. I knew a detective in the Bureau of Missing Persons in New York, and he spoke about that later. When I was coming down to Washington, he came to call on me in my office as Industrial Commissioner. I said, “I expect I'm going to have a rough