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It was an evening anyhow. New York was as naive as that in those days. I'm sure other people did it too. All kinds of good people went down to see the municipal lodging house which they heard about for the first time. They were shocked, too, at the rather inhuman conditions at the municipal lodging house. I remember John Kingsbury pitched in and tried to improve the municipal lodging house, making it more humane, natural and decent.

There were great goings on. I don't know now how the unemployed ended up. I supposed prosperity picked up its heels at some point. The war came. That's what ended it. The excitement didn't last a long while, but it was very intense and very acute as far as New York was concerned.

There was this great battle going on too. The people that got all the attention were the homeless men - the wanderers - whereas actually there were hundreds of our own skilled workmen, who lived and worked in New York, such as in the needle trades, the street car operations, and building trades, out of work - thousands out of work. They weren't getting attention because they weren't on the Bowery. Finally they found their voice largely through various trade unions. They began to make representations as to what their condition was, too. We were just beginning to realize that