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Albany at that time, but I knew him also in New York. One of the first acquaintances I made in the field of social work was Lawrence Veiller. Of course the Consumers' League had been deeply involved in the tenement house reform and had been all for it. We appealed to him to support our program, as he'd appealed to us to support his.

Social workers were awfully close to each other than as there weren't too many of them. Most of them had their offices in the old Charities Building at 22nd Street and 4th Avenue. You could hardly fail to become acquainted. Somebody introduced you to somebody in the elevator, said who you were, and so you became acquainted with the AICP people - the Association for Improving the Condition of the Poor - the COS people - Charity Organization people - and the tenement house reform group. You knew everybody else that was operating. It was a small and sort of integrated professional world as there weren't so many of them. Mutual help and fairness prevailed and I remember it to this day.

I knew Homer Folks very well, of course. I'm not sure that he wasn't on the board of the Consumers' League at one time or another. At any rate, I saw a great deal of him, knew him very well, consulted him frequently, though he wasn't in our exact field of reform of the industrial and