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employment situation. He was very sympathetic and full of good advice, help and particularly political advice and political help. He would always turn out an awful lot of people to help us out at a hearing. There was a Buffalo philanthropist, for instance, who'd been a great supporter of Homer Folks, and so Homer Folks interested a man like him in our program. And when it seemed it might be voted down I could telephone to his man and he would telephone to somebody in his political world. That's the way it worked. Mrs. Dexter Rumsey of Buffalo was another similar powerfully connected upstate friend as was Horace Eaton of Syracuse and the Hazards of Solvay Process.

Over quite a long period of time I had charge of the various legislation and different people were in charge of different bills. The bill with regard to seats for women in department stores had been introduced several years before I came into the picture when the Republicans were riding high. It was introduced by J. Mayhew Wainwright from Westchester County - a wonderful man, great, great fellow, really - Republican. So I saw him with regard to that bill. In those days I had no power, as women didn't have the vote, and it just wasn't expected of you to have power or influence, so the approach was “please help,” not “we demand.”