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inspection is and how you catch up with that sort of thing.

It is hard to say how you proceed. I asked everybody to come and see me in the department. That was quite surprising and shocking. I don't think it was much liked by my colleagues, because they hadn't kept the open door. I thought the only way I could find out anything was to have the people that were doing it come and talk to me and tell me. I encouraged it. I invited it. If anybody didn't come, I asked them to come. They talked freely and gradually as they got accustomed to me and knew I wasn't going to hurt them individually. I began to pick this one and this one and this one who really knew what was going on, what was wrong, why things hadn't been done, how it could have been done. Also I picked the ones who knew something about the department, who would talk, and who could be relied on to dig out information for Mr. O'Connor. We picked out several of those.

Pretty soon Jerry O'Connor was appointed as Moreland Act Commissioner. From that time on the whole Commission was engaged in preparing its answers for the Moreland Act Commissioner. You couldn't help but see them concentrate on these things as these questions were proposed. That investigation lasted a long time. Those investigations don't take place in a month. It took three or four months. It was a long-drawn-out thing. In the meantime, all the dirt