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It's an honor in itself to have your name put in nomination. Most people don't realize that, but in political circles it's a very great honor to have your name put in nomination.

The only thing that Smith said to me about that was when I said I heard they were going to put his name in, he said, “Yeah, so I hear. Nothing'll come of it. But it's a very great honor to have your name put in nomination at a great Democratic convention. I'm very grateful.” I don't think he gave it much thought.

The talk that he heard from those who heard the New York delegation putting his name in nomination, the talk that he heard from others about what a good fellow he was from outside the State of New York, the things that were said about him by other Democrats from other places, the articles and editorials that were written in the papers - the New York Times and other papers outside the state - had a great influence on his thinking. He suddenly began to think, “Well, it's just possible that I am that kind of a man. It's just possible that I'm the kind of a man that could be President. It's very interesting.” I think he began to think about it seriously after the first nomination in 1924.

Ed Flynn, I am told in his book, has a story about the Presidential nomination, the Mullen-Gage Act and Charles F.