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give you some good tips. He'd tell you what the Governor had better keep off, what the Governor had better not say much about, what he'd better reassure the people about, and so forth. Very useful they were.

Shientag, who was running the mechanics of it, would always arrange with the local people who met him at the train, who came aboard, who got the crowd out, where the crowd went, what hotel you went to. You go to the hotel that's Democratic. There's always a Democratic hotel and a Republican hotel in every city. The De Witt Clinton was really built in Albany because the Ten Eyck was such a good Republican hotel. They had to have another first-class hotel for the Democrats to go to. The Democrats immediately began going to the De Witt Clinton. They wouldn't be found dead in the Ten Eyck. Shientag always took that dope from the local people, as to where the Governor would stay and where other people would stay.

You'd have to find out what he should go see. Going to Syracuse, he's always go to the State Fair. I won't say always, but his visit was very likely to coincide with the State Fair. That was a good time to go to Syracuse, because a lot of people were there. You saw a lot of people.

We had begun to dig out some very good and very