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advantage in the arguments - New York State had the most severe and strictest labor laws. Still we managed to compete successfully with the Massachusetts and New Hampshire.

I began to think of this whole project of preventing unemployment as something that could not be done by one state alone. You had to have a competitive area because the people travel from one state to the other to get their jobs. We had begun in New York to have the runaway industry that moved out of the city or state to operate in some place where the factory inspection wasn't very good, or where they violated law, or where there wasn't any law with regard to hours. We'd begun to have a terrible problem of runaway industries from New York. The same thing was happening in the other states too. They were running out of Massachusetts to Maine, New Hampshire or Vermont. They couldn't move the big textile mills, but clothing, shoes and things like that could move rather quickly. They were doing that for one reason or another.

I began to realize that we had to get some kind of an agreement between competitive areas on some of these things. It was after that conference that I got this idea of a Governor's Conference. I first discussed it with Bruere and sold it to him. It was an awfully difficult project. We realized that we couldn't swing it without some help.