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Commissioner. I wasn't well acquainted with him before, but I became very well acquainted with him when he was on this commission. He was appointed while Hamilton was still Commissioner and was Commissioner in 1928. So it might very well be that I asked Smith to appoint him because Hamilton was so feeble. McPike was also a problem at that time. Smith was worried about Hamilton and didn't know what to do about him exactly. I'm pretty sure that Mrs. Moskowitz suggested the Moreland Act Commissioner to get out of all this. It was principally to get rid of Hamilton. McPike was only a nuisance and not really important.

I finally fired McPike after I became Industrial Commissioner. I guess she wasn't fired before this because of fear of her dirty tongue. I suppose she could always call up a group of howling supporters. She was the kind who had the howling supporters. After she began writing anonymous letters she was difficult.

At any rate, during the two years that Rogers was working around I became very well acquainted with him. Junior placement work was something that Rogers and were agitating for. There was a pretty good State Employment Service in the Department of Labor, but it needed strengthening and the development of a placement service particularly for the young. There had been considerable agitation about it,