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to Cortlandt Street. Is that right or should I go some other way?' Then she'll tell you.” I remember this woman telling them, “Never say you're sure you know, but never say you don't know either. Say you think you know and that you'll try. Don't promise more than you can fulfill because then they get mad at you because you weren't able to find it after you started out.”

So the idea was that we should take that service over and attach to the employment service of the State of New York a Junior Placement Service, which would be not only in New York City, where this organization carried on their work, but would be all over the state wherever we had the State Employment Offices. While they never expected to go out of business and never have, they would do less and less placement work and more and more consulting, advisory and vocational guidance work, which they have continued to this day and are very good at indeed.

We had to get extra money and give a little educational report in order to get the money to go ahead with it. Rogers was very much interested in that and that was one of the things that he recommended. I think Rogers had given an interim report and recommended many things. Right in the middle of his study Roosevelt became Governor and he told Hamilton that he wanted his resignation. I suppose he told