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my advice or whether he was telling me or whether he was just saying, “I think Hopkins would be the best person. Don't you think that's good?”, I don't remember, but certainly Mr. Folks and I understood each other perfectly on the matter. I did think Hopkins would be good. He was young and vigorous.

I know that Bruere talked with Hopkins frequently because he thought Hopkins was bright, intelligent, understood things and had a way of putting them that was practical. The program of relief was very much in the minds of these upstate people on the unemployment committee like Max Wheeler and others. The question of relief, getting relief and organizing relief was uppermost in their minds, because they lived in communities where the slump was serious and lots and lots of people were out of work and were making demands on the local relief agencies - more than they could fulfill.

I don't yet know where they got the money for the state emergency relief, but I expect that the Governor recommended to the Legislature special appropriations. That was in August, 1931, that the bill for relief funds was passed. By '31 our committee was already making reports to the Governor that unemployment was increasing. The degree of demand on voluntary relief organizations was very great.

David Adie was also considered for Hopkin's post.