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would take the lead in persuading the other labor commissioners to agree to certain projects that I was concerned about and interested in.

Later on, Andrews came down as head of the Wage and Hour Division of the Department of Labor, and then he really crumpled. So when I said that I regretted that I recommended him, I was really referring to this episode in '36, which I will get to later.

However, I did recommend him to Lehman, and I recommended him on merit, on the fact that he was there, that he knew the work, that he would follow right through, that he knew Roosevelt's policies, which were Lehman's policies, with regard to the Department of Labor, that he knew my policies, which were Lehman's policies, or at least he had said they would be his policies. It would be a take-over in the same general pattern and the same general spirit.

The Governor said, “Well, all right. Of course, I'll have to look into it. I want to be sure that the leaders are okay on that, and so forth.”

At any rate, I heard from Herbert Lehman that my taking the appointment was all right. He regretted it, and said, “You won't go at once, will you?”

I said, “No, I imagine that I'll want to go down to the inauguration,” which was almost the next week. I had not