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conciliators out. They report that they've got a union all right and it's on strike, but it's affiliated with the CIO. What would you have us do - walk away and let them strike, leave them alone, make no effort at conciliation with their employer?”

I remember he said, “Yes, I don't think you should give them a hand at all.”

I asked him, “What about the employer?”

“Well, if the strike fails, we'll come in and take it over.”

I said, “But suppose the strike doesn't fail? Suppose the employer gives in and makes an improper agreement? You've then got something that's bed for the working people who work in that factory. They can't carry it out. I don't see how we can ignore them. We've got to take account of whoever it is that's on strike. We've got to deal with them through their representatives, whether it's the ones you think it ought to be, or not.”

Well, we had great difficulties. The AF of L saw the sense of what we had to do. They knew in their hearts you couldn't do any differently, that if they'd been a public officer, they would have done the same. But still they would say, “Miss Perkins and the government favor the CIO.” Favor them, nothing. If it was a CIO union that was