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would show them particular hospitality and would take them into conference, asking their advice about legislation which I might think was desirable, but before it was introduced.

There was a recess, I think, in December and I had this idea that after they came back from this recess, I would invite the Senate committee and the House committee to come to the Department of Labor, to take a look at the Department of Labor, to see us in our home, in our working relationship, and to confer especially with me with regard to some proposals with regard to legislation.

So I wrote the proper letter to the Chairmen of both committees. David Walsh was Chairmen of the Senate committee and Mr. Connery was the Chairman of the House Committee on Labor Legislation. I wrote and said that I was desirous of conferring with them about matters in the planning of future labor legislation, that I wanted to get their ideas and work together with them, and also I wanted very much to have them see the Labor Department, see the building in which we operated, the way in which we did our work, letting the staff members have the opportunity of meeting them all together for an informal discussion of proposals.

I had learned by this time that you never can see members of Congress after twelve o'clock, that they have to be on the Hill then, so that if you want to do anything