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remember what I said, but I know what I felt about things like that in every other case. I would insist that there should be no direct access to the President except through Cabinet officers. Any free-wheeler or private person could have access to the President, but on an organizational setup I didn't believe in it.

I was an experienced government administrator. It was clear to me all through the New Deal period that the President had too many strings to his bow anyhow. There were too many kinds of things that had to be presented to the President that one channel had to be made. I realize that there are some people who don't trust the head of an agency like a Secretary of Commerce, Agriculture of Labor to give the President the full View, the whole picture, the cons as well as the pros of the proposition, but at that time I took it for granted that any responsible officer would do as I would do - which was to be the person who told the President everything against my proposals as well as everything that was for it, and in reporting detail would have reported the adverse as well as the positive and favorable. I have heard by now that many of the Cabinet officers did not do that.

I know that I did make one suggestion about this act, about which I knew nothing. I knew nothing about the