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simply splendid work. Of course, most of the people that had to be processed were less intelligent, less trained, less experienced than they were. They did very well indeed and it was a very good service.

Out of the National Re-Employment Service we developed people whom we later, when the USES began to expand, found suitable for employment in the USES. They worked in and have been there ever since.

That's how I kept so close to the details of the relief program. Through the employment service, the people going on the relief works were passing through our hands. The same thing happened when two years later we got into the big employment for people working on public works - true public works. That, of course, was another story, because it took quite a long battle before we got a public works program and before it got into active operation so that it employed many people on the job. The Congressional rules still held that they must have preference for veterans, local residents and heads of families.

I describe this launching of the relief program because it was generally well thought of, as was the CCC. The CCC never had anything but favorable publicity. To this day you will find the most conservative people, who were opposed to anything else in Roosevelt's administration, saying, “The