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this would be a good chance to propose it to the Governors. I forget what day the conference was to be, but I think it Was to be the Monday of Tuesday of the week of inauguration - right away.

That was about all that happened. Nobody brought up any special problems, as I remember. Everybody's mind was full of everything else and was very startled to find the situation as bad as it was.

I don't remember whether it was that time, or at another very early meeting, when some question were raised as to the conversation between Arthur Ballantine, President Hoover, other officers of the outgoing administration, and President Roosevelt, Woodin, or any other people. I Know that some such conversations took place. Of course, we know that some of them took place before inauguration, but I know that some of them were taking place in those two days. Ballantine was certainly running around. He was the one of the outgoing group who knew the most, saw the most clearly, and was the most cooperative and most willing to help out and turn over whatever he knew, laying out his own studied opinions about new questions, and questions new to us. That was talked about at some early Cabinet meeting - if not that night, then soon after. I think J knew by the night that there had been such conversations, that they had been pretty