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awkward side, on the non-diplomatic side. The professor that came in with us later were much more mannerly I may say. However, those men were all right. I still don't know who they were.

Anyhow, I got one of them. He said, “Oh yes, yes, of course. We were expecting to hear from you.”

I thought that was interesting, but I made no comment on it. I said, “Well, I'd like to speak to Mr. Doak.”

He said, “Oh yes, I guess I can get him.”

There was quite a lapse of time while he apparently went in and spoke to him. Mr. Doak came to the telephone. He said, “Good morning.”

I said, “You know I've been sworn in, don't you?” He said, “Yes, I read in the paper that the whole Cabinet was sworn in. I didn't know whether you were going to stay around Washington now or not.”

I said, “We were all sworn in, asked to stay, and take over our duties at once.”

“Oh, yes,” he said.

I said, “I'm here and I thought I would like to come over to the Department while you are still there.” I emphasized that because I wanted to imply to him that I expected him to get out at some convenient time. So I said, “I would like to come to the Department while you are still

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