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were working, but I didn't get much from him as to who was working under him, and I don't remember now who they were.

At any rate, I decided I would tell the President what was going on. I got these things just by insisting. Henry Wallace told me what he knew. He didn't know much really, except that someone had described this thing to him in glowing terms. I'm not sure that Tugwell described it to him. Anyway, Wallace was also on its track and he had had a talk with Douglas almost immediately. He hadn't had a talk with Douglas on this day at Cabinet meeting, but almost immediately thereafter he did. He had a long talk with Douglas and apparently Douglas didn't know too much about it really.

As near as I can make out, Douglas was using the existence of this planning scheme as a tool to prevent the President from giving assent to a public works program. I'm sure that was what he was doing. I don't think he cared much about the NRA. He may have thought it had good elements in it, but he thought of it as a tool to prevent the President from winging into a public works program, which he was really opposed to, and I think sincerely and honestly opposed. He had a right to be opposed. All I objected to was that he wouldn't say so and defend his position, which was defensible. We were in a deflation, and the bottom of a bad deflation,